Beretta vs browning for sporting clays reddit review Reply blue_light_switch • Additional comment actions. You will never be successful as a shotgun shooter until you shoot with both eyes open. No, I've not bought one back. He’s put through thousands of rounds with zero malfunctions. I'm "emotionally' tilting towards the 30 inch barrel length but feel like I may be leaving something on the table by not "manning up" to I have a Beretta A300 outlander, my buddy whom I shoot sporting clays with has a Stoeger M3000. He is looking at a Beretta A400 12ga, having heard that the recoil is about the same as a 20 ga. Is it worth upgrading to aftermarket tubes? I've always been told that Beretta makes good factory chokes. I'm leaning towards the Rizzini S2000, not sure on barrel length but was thinking 30in. Check out Randy Wakeman's review on YouTube on the new RS. Thank you, Beretta Silver Pigeon Browning Citori (or Cynergy) Rizzini BR110 All are excellent choices. If you were going to buy a new O/U for sporting clays what would you buy between browning and beretta. firin'blanks Discussion starter. You might find a beretta patterns really well with 7. I am 240lbs and the lightness of the gun doesn’t bother me, swings clean and has a nice balance. I've decided that both Browning's are going and I'm going to buy a 12 gauge I switched to an older Citori. went to a competition where we were shooting hundreds of rounds and they definitely do help. I may try a rizzini next week, as my stockist said that the rizzini would fit me similar to the 686 and he has some new ones arriving Yes the 694 is more expensive it’s a big competitor for the midrange sporting guns, the Cynergy is a gimmicky entry level Sporting gun. Definitely a level above the Turkish guns. Right now I am deciding between the Beretta Silver Pigeon II with Especially if I ever shoot skeet or sporting clays. If you aren't quite as tall, I'd lean toward the CX with 30". We shoot clays for fun, not competition or anything. I haven't had a lot of outings probably under a dozen, and each time I've been renting guns. I love the Beretta 686 but I have also been looking at the Franchi Instinct. . I have shot Beretta, Ceasar Guerini, and a few Brownings and ended up with the SP1 Beretta because it shouldered, pointed, and felt better for me. 2 questions: Is this "enough" of an upgrade to be worthwhile? For your sporting clays and skeet shooting, the Beretta Shooting Vest offers excellent versatility and performance. The Auto 5 will do for now. I saw another similar post, but I'm not sure how a full choke applies to other clay sports. The browning 725, beretta 686, Rizzini br110 sporting are all about the same price, all have their fans, and would come down to fit. There is a common issue with fit though where the Browning or Beretta will fit a person better. I am considering a Beretta 690 Black or Browning Citori 725, with either 30" or 32" barrels. Open it up loose but noway like the others. Further, both the CXS and 686 would be 32in vs 30in on the 725. T. I could always buy a semi or cheaper sporting O/U for sporting clays I suppose and it would last me a long time because I won’t shoot it a bunch. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on Reddit; Shop Collectible Avatars; Get the Looking to get a new semi auto for sporting clays. I'm considering the Franchi Instinct Sporting 2, Winchester Model 101 Sporting or the Browning Cynergy CX. It's also currently the only sporting semi-auto from Beretta with the pretty & glossy blued barrels, as opposed to the matte finished ones. Overall I'd be shooting a Browning over the Beretta. I did have the chance to shoot a 725 Citori Sporting. Any thoughts or suggestions, can’t seem to decide Browning Citori CX with Adjustable Comb ($2539 MSRP) Browning Citori 725 Sporting ($3069 MSRP) Caesar Guerini Summit Sporting ($3995 MSRP) Here are my notes: Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon I Sporting-- reliable workhorse, if a bit soulless. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. 1lb. It will also be lighter. I went to my local gun store and fooled around with several over/under shotguns, from a very inexpensive Stoeger, a couple of CZs, plus benelli/beretta/browning. The parent company of fabarm. Beretta, Benelli, Franchi—you are looking at quality guns, here. just for a comparison a beretta ultralight weights in at only 5. I've sold quite a few of them here at our NY Beretta Gallery and the buyers have been very happy with the feel and performance of the gun. For autoloaders I get along better with berettas than I do brownings. The higher end ones are level with Browning/beretta entry level shotguns. If you want a nicer version go wood. I would get either with the adjustable comb stock. I get it though with the money. With its durable construction, you can confidently carry a substantial amount of ammo without worrying about pouches ripping off, addressing the issue you've experienced with your current vest. Even shot Sporting Clays against a girl who was shooting a Perazzi and her gun kept not working. I'd like to order the shotgun before I move back home so I will be ready for the fall season. If you get a bad barrel with the Beretta they will not fix it. I have a beretta 20g a400 explor as well that is also a really nice gun one of my favorites. In the end, the choice between the Browning Citori CXS and Beretta Silver Pigeon is subjective and dependent on individual shooting preferences. The aesthetic of the flower pivot pin, engraving, and emphasized joint just looks so much nicer to me than the hidden design of the Browning. This is coming from a guy who shoots a Beretta. The trigger is still nice and crisp after all these years, too I have an a300 ultima that my kid uses, an a400 xtrema plus, and an a400 excel. I was able to accomplish shooting 3 hand thrown clays at 1. Their A300 and A400 variants are the place to start. I am looking into purchasing a 20 gauge Browning Citori O/U. I personally fit the Browning O/U's much better than the Silver Pigeons. For trap or sporting clays, a 12 gauge is a little better. Both can work, it’s just what you get used to. In the Autoloader category, I have three good recommendations. It is for sale. I would suggest a browning citori CX or CXS. I love Browning and every Citori I've shot or even handled is fabulous. I loaned her my 725 Citori so she could finish the stage. Beretta costs more because it's a little bit more fancy and better made and you pay for the name also. Make sure to check Optima HP vs others. A field gun and a sporting gun are different animals but the a300 is a great “all purpose” gun. For the money I don’t think I've also rented a Beretta Silver Pigeon at my local sporting clays place a few times and man are they nice. Thus, the quandary between the 694 in 32 vs. Reply ShaolinDolemite • Additional Browning Maxus 2. They are however both high quality guns, either of which will serve you a lifetime of shooting and one isn't really better than the other. Those are something that the sporting already comes with. It doesnt have the fit and finish of the Beretta but is well made, shoots tight and is lighter then the Beretta. I recently shot a Browning A5 made in 1961 - worked flawlessly. I For sporting clays, the 50/50 or 60/40 is a good balanced poi. I held a citori 725 field in a gun shop a while back and it felt like to puzzle pieces snapping together. One thing I really like about beretta autos is the ability to shim the stocks to fit different faces and different styles of shooting. So I know I haven’t had it a while yet, but my first impressions with it are great! I really shopped around for a long time before I found one with the right fit. I do not trust specs too much. Would this shotgun be good for both bird hunting and clay sports? Edit - Thanks for the responses! Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. After a work event at a local sporting clays place, it’s something I want to do a LOT more of. I have been shooting a Browning 625 for about 13 years now (Sporting Clays), and I shoot about 100 shells a week pretty consistently for about 10 of those years (more if there are shooting events I attend) . If you want to go budget O/U maybe check out a Franchi. Granted it isn’t the main use and I’m not the best, but it works pretty well. Get the one you like best but acting like price is all the difference here is Comes with full and mod. J. Can’t remember exactly but they all have a different spread. The a300 on the other hand carries the beretta The Benelli will have more recoil than the Browning or Beretta. I only shoot the 28" gun for that. I’m interested in buying an A400 Xcel Sporting with Kick Off as a backup/foul weather/I-like-buying-guns gun. Excels shoot so darn soft that I would skip the kick-off personally. Went shooting this morning, 150 clays roughly. I am mostly interested in sporting clays, but want to use a newly purchased (and set restored) browning auto 5. I have few options and would appreciate advice on which one to get. A 686 Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 Sporting and a Browning 725 Sporting, both with 32" barrels. I'm going back next week to take a closer look at the F3. Does anyone have experience with either or both? Any other recommendations would be appreciated as well. I am considering the 20 gauge since some quail hunt plantations do not allow 12 gauge shotguns. He let me look around and I saw a used CG 20ga sporting. Having What is your main purpose for this gun? A duck hunting gun can do fine on the sporting clays course, but isn’t ideal; a trap gun will be annoying to hunt dove with. Believe CXS is a 60/40 and CXT be 70/30. Browning Silver I'm looking to upgrade my Stoeger M3000 to get a more reputable brand of shotgun. I expect to be more on the casual side of clay sports so I think it fits my needs and budget the best. What I did like was the F3 Blaser and the new 625 Browning, and a used Beretta DT10. A lot of people will say things like 'buy once - cry once'. Busted plenty of clays with it!!! edit: bought new, 3k, a little pricey but I liked the whole black edition Help Support Clay, Trap, Skeet Shooting Forum: Just a thought , I saw the new Browning 825 this week , Quite a nice package . Semi-Auto Sporting Clays Shotguns: Browning Vs. The CG is a better gun for the same cash. You can always get a trigger job on a Browning if you need it. My Cynergy has a large enough trigger guard to accommodate a pair of gloves but I’d like the thinnest pair possible that’s still warm. I’ll probably get a B gun, but not due to quality. I'm a big guy, 6'4 220lbs with long orangutan arms, if that makes any difference. Both shotguns represent the pinnacle of craftsmanship and offer excellent performance in their respective ways. Where an inertia gun is well suited to hunting, they are not the best for the clay range (I mean at the highest level, everything is workable at the casual level). I've been doing some research and a lot of the options I'm interested in look like they're only available in Europe (I'm in the US). They are heavier than the beretta SP1 (helps with recoil) and cost less. He has a Browning A5 16ga, and that is too heavy/ too much recoil for him to be comfortable. But it's heavy. For a sporting / hunting gun, I would rather have a Citori CX or Beretta SP. But I haven’t gotten my hands on the CX yet. The 686 and the CXS would be new, and the 725 would be gently used. 5/10 trap gun, 9/10 sporting clays gun, 9/10 hunting gun. I have this gun, have posted it here before I think, definitely on the Beretta page. This gun isn't necessarily set up for sporting clays, but hey, it's the shooter right? I haven't had any issues with this one at all, and the perceived recoil was pretty good despite being a lighter gun. Thank you, I'm a longtime sporting clays shooter that will probably enter 8-10 tournaments in a calendar year. Is this gun worth buying or something that should be skipped? Competitive sporting clays shooter here - shoot 3-5k registered targets a year (I have to go to work too) There are two types of courses - walking and riding. I shoot it well. Thanks for any replies! I'm interested in hearing differences of reliability, quality, fit and finish, wood, and handling. Now my brother uses a Beretta A400 semi auto. Fabarm Elos N2 Sporting 30" Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon Sporting 30" Browning Citori CXS 30" (725 is too much) Also considering the Cynergy. 496 posts · Joined 2007 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · Jul 20, 2008. Before I choose the 686 the 725 was on my radar, are Advertisement Coins. I would like to get my hands on a 3" model and see if I can run it any faster. I would consider the Franchi or the Winchester 101 over the Beretta. You can also find some used Perazzis or Blaser F3s at the upper end of this range. I had a cx series browning that I wasn’t happy with so I took a gamble on a rizzini. Edit: the receiver and the barrels have the same serial number. While the O/U is arguably single-minded in it's purpose. Their hunting shotguns are rough to shoot alot since they are made to only take a few shots a day so they kick is heavier with I decided on the a300 for my first dedicated clay gun. I have a Beretta A400 Xcel Multitarget. ) for clay target shooting. Whats it choked with? If you are a dedicated sporting clays shooter something like IC/MOD works well for most course layouts. 9lbs. Jump to Latest 14K views 22 replies 14 participants last post by Redwood Jul 24, 2008. Then the CXT be trap variation and CXS be sporting. The 694 has all of Beretta newest and best technology in it, even Browning is not making the Cynergy to compete with the 694. If I had it to do over again I would buy a CXT or a CX. The Browning is the better gun, in many ways. I’m leaning towards the CX because I don’t hunt and I’m the browning description it said it was designed for all three games. I am a left handed shooter and the caesar guerini summit I would be buying would be a true lefty, whereas the browning 725 I found is a right handed gun (but fairly neutral) . I’ve held the CXS and I like the feel of it. It has factory extended chokes in M, IM, and IC. Like a fool I traded mine for a Beretta Unsingle 682. I love my Browning CX. So I picked up a new (to me) Browning Lightning Sporting Clays from a used gun seller, and I'd like to get it set up for sporting clays and trap. At one point I understand that a pin for the carbon rib was coming loose - this was several years ago and an easy fix. I'm worried it won't work for clay and I should get a sporting instead. I find that recoil is similar between a target 12 gauge and a 20 gauge. I abuse the hell out my a300 and it performs flawlessly. CZ Sharptail Target - 12ga 30 inch - Review upvotes Got the 12 gauge browning citori this weekend bc 20 no ammo for sale There are pros who shoot 20 gauge for skeet. I am trying to decide if the a300 sporting model is a good value for an extra $150 over the field model. Beretta a300 vs. I have put 10,000 rounds through my sporting model in the last three years without a single malfunction. All three are ballpark in the same price range but I am just having trouble picking one over the others. the cost of a browning 525 in 20 ga w/ 28" barrels is roughly $1600-1700 the thing is it weights 6. It’ll be used for sporting clays, trap, and skeet. Big game changer for me on trap. $2500. If you're primarily gonna be doing trap, the Citori CX 60/40 along with the *a Perazzi with coil springs. Thanks y’all! You are correct on the sporting vs field models on the auto safety, get the sporting and save yourself a trip to the gunsmith later. Will it even be possible to shoot sporting clays or any other clay sport with this setup? I shoot mostly sporting clays, and used this quite a bit to learn early on. Skeet can use shorter barrels. Amazing amount of value for the money. The beretta I read mixed reviews but beretta does sell a lot more guns in the US than Guerini I would imagineI was pondering a beretta 687 Joel etchen Trap or a Caesar Guerini summit ascent. Trap and sporting typically will want 30 or 32" barrels in the O/U. I tried some sporting clays and trap and I like it a lot. OTOH, my clays buddy nephew hits better with the Beretta and grabs it every time. I As for the Browning Cynergy, it’s a modernized O/U better suited to hunting, hence the polymer stock. I'm curious as to what that extra money gets you above the Beretta name. A general “field gun” will be OK at all things and better than most people need. Does the Browning Gold Sporting or the Beretta AL 391 Urika give you that edge? All to often after reading the great review on a particular gun. I may try a rizzini next week, as my stockist said that the rizzini would fit me similar to the 686 and he has some new ones arriving I've been bitten by the sporting clays bug and would like to buy an O/U. I like the 625 alot but I want an upgrade and I feel the Beretta 694 would me more of a lateral move instead of an upgrade. I’m in the market for my own O/U. It might just be anecdotal but when i shot clays competitively, i kept hearing of quality issues with Perazzi if you got one with leaf springs. 17 seconds although I did have some cycling issues. Is there I have both. beretta a400 xcel vs multitarget For sporting clays what’s the Preferred gun. I currently shoot a Beretta a400 multitarget. It is essentially an FN SC-1 made for Winchester. Also Conclusion: The Citori CXS and Silver Pigeon Are Both Great Shotguns. I've tried the following: Guerini tempio, Browning 725 and 625, Beretta 692, and Beretta 686. I am looking for a good over/under shotgun for sporting clays tournaments. It helps considerably in my opinion. Gun fit is I've been shooting trap and skeet with my Mossberg 500 the past few months and I'd like to upgrade to either a semi auto or O/U. after recoil pad, magazine cap weight and stock weight) or 7/8 oz, 1200 fps cartridges in a 20-gauge Browning O/U (7 lbs. Have several rounds of sporting clays & trap through it. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. Would prefer to stay on the less expensive side obviously. My first advice is to decide if you want autoloader or Over/Under. Lots of conversations about guns that aren’t browning/beretta. 75lbs I got mine for $1600. You can sometimes find used Beretta DT11s at the upper end of this range. They aren't even in the same league. Very popular gun with very good reviews. It will be more work to clean, but will also cycle the lightest loads. F. I am looking at buying a new over-and-under shotgun for clay shooting and dove hunting. Beretta is a lower receiver and the Browning ( even the 725 "new" low receiver, is deeper than a Beretta/CG/B. I have found two good deals on new A400 Sportings locally. I shoot mainly LM and Mod for all the clays courses. It was a nice shooter but a felt bulky and I was not a huge fan of the I love my Browning CX. For clays you’d be better off with an sp1 sporting. I love my Pigeon for I average 5000-6000 targets a year in sporting clays. I'm located in europe so no idea if they models are different. I currently use a field gun for the past year (mossberg gold reserve) and want to upgrade to a dedicated sporting gun. I paid $2850 a year ago for a br110x with a factory adjustable comb. It will be used 90% in the field (mostly duck hunting) along with some clays for practice a few times a year. Best Waterfowl Gun: Benelli SBE3 BE S. Hey everyone! Myself, brother, and father have all joined our local sporting clays club and I have been renting their semi auto Beretta's. I’d buy the newest version of the Fabarm, N2-“RS”. It's also a decent price point. It becomes a nuisance when you are layered up for cold weather. 108 posts · Joined 2007 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · May 8, 2008. I turned down the chance to shoot the Sporter demo gun at Kelbrook , just because I’d gone specifically to try a few different choke / cartridge combinations in my game gun . 5 Optima chokes. And I got hooked. I'm looking to upgrade. I'm afraid it's a Beretta quality control issue The headline says it all Bought a brand new Beretta 694 Sporting. 7K views 20 replies 18 participants last post by bobinthesky May 21, 2008. 28"vs30" barrel is a "meh" for me, they both feel really similar and i'm not experienced enough to honestly be able Buying a beretta 686 silver pigeon 1 sporting for clays. In this, Gil promotes Modified choke as the best for all around sporting clays shooting. If you are going to get into clay sports, the options at the budget level are the Beretta or Browning. Best gun for the money if you don’t want problems. On paper I slightly prefer the Beretta modified Boss break-action Something I could use for sporting clays, skeet, trap, 5-stand etc. For short courses, 5 stands or the like when you are close to your car, a push cart or stroller is ideal. I don't hunt so this would be purely for sport. You pretty much get what you pay for I'm new to sporting clays bought the 686 SP cause I'm familiar with the Beretta's tactical line. Both are good guns, but very different as they are autos. Here’s my review after one year and over 5000 shells. I shoot mainly LM and Mod for all the clays Absolutely buy the sporting version if you plan to shoot clays. Then flipping a few But with customer service in mind, if I was to buy a new sporting gun in the price range of a BR110 Sporting or Browning 725 Sporting. Every serious clay shooter will be shooting a 12 gauge exclusively, unless they have to shoot something else for competition rules (often with sub-gauge tubes in their 12 gauge gun). If wanting to shoot both sporting and trap - go with the standard sporting excel. Between the two is the Beretta worth the extra over a Franchi? comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. The Beretta isn't bad certainly, I've read reports of it's decline in the past few years. Don’t know what the price point in the 825 range is but if it’s My father has a Benelli Montefeltro 20ga, which he is really happy with. They’re all excellent guns for any clay or bird shooting. Or check it out in the app stores Using VR for Sporting Clays Practice - Clay Hunt VR Feedback Beretta A300 ultima vs Browning Silver Hunter 12ga I’m torn between buying either the CX or CXS. I am under no false impressions that the Not quite the same but I have a 725 Citori Sporting and 687 SP3 (which is mechanically identical to the 686) and prefer shooting the Browning. I feel I can move faster and transition to the second clay more quickly. The SP1 is very reliable, compared to some of the newer Beretta A300 I can get new for about $850, the browning is used (great condition from what I can tell) for $780 Would be primarily using this gun for clays and trap, but would definitely want to be able to use it for waterfowl hunts as well. I just use a tighter choke than the guys with 28-30+ inch barrels are using. The balance, weight distribution, and extra two inches of barrel definitely make the A300 Sporting the better choice for shooting clays. Pros: -the metal and wood are solid and heavy, I like heavy sporters. 30” is ideal for skeet, 32” if you’re tall and also want to shoot a lot of trap. I love trap/skeet/sporting clay so the Browning Citori looks like a great deal. Note, choke is the difference between the bore diameter of the barrel of the shotgun and the minimum diameter of the constriction at the muzzle. Best Upland Shotgun: Browning A5 O/U Beretta vs Browning. Fair point but 2000 dollars difference buys a lot of oranges. I recently noticed the Weatherby Orion Sporting and the rather attractive price it has. Also, check out some Guerrini's if your budget is higher. Thing is here in Canada the sporting model is almost $1000 more than the field. 101's, cynergys, and cx's are around Can’t decide between Beretta SP1 Sporting or Browning Citori CX white, both 12ga 30”. Black synthetic (wish it was wood). I’m a beginner intermediate, will be shooting 50/50 trap and skeet, no hunting. The DT10 is noticeably I shoot sporting clays - so I am biased to that discipline. Be a bit on heavy site for hunting but meh. Not so with a Nikko. 3# in a 725. I just started and will eventually buy a decent beretta or browning over under The choice is for a 3,5" synthetic, Browning Maxus II vs Beretta A400 Xtreme I am concerned about reliability and I'd like to have some direct feedback about actual weight. Spending approx. (though I like the Beretta better honestly). It was a good test of high volume shooting, 400 shells in a couple hours, plenty of 6 and 8 bird stations getting 20+ shells through it in a few minutes time. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Basically a cheaper Beretta. It feels great and I am shooting better than ever. I'm looking for suggestions, and thoughts on the browning citori cx. CX be 50/50. You may experience malfunctions with shells that Beretta Silver Pigeon I will be lighter and faster, Browning CX will be heavier (especially barrels) and slower therefore, I would choose 32" barrels on Beretta and 30" barrels on Browning. Or Im looking to buy a new shotgun. It is a 12 gauge with a 32" barrel and a full choke. I love to shoot fast and this gun does that well. if its for upland hunting you want to save weight the beretta weights only 6. As an owner of Browning 725 Sporting (32 inch) I’d say go for if it properly fits you. 14K subscribers in the ClayBusters community. Went with the Pigeon. Beretta 694, Caesar Guerini Magnus, Zoli Z-Sport, Zoli Kronos, Browning 725, Blaser F16. I currently own a 725 Sporting with a 30” barrel for sporting clays. The gas system and heavy weight is better for clays. Looking at the beretta 694, browning 725 and the caeser summit. I like The three guns I am deciding between are a Beretta 686, Browning Citori CXS, and a Citori 725. So I need to gear up. At the end of Beretta vs. 30 inch barrels. The fit is slightly different but I do like them both. I'm looking to get into my first over under specifically for sporting clays. Fits me well so no pain. I went to a older Citori, then a Cesear Guerini and now just collecting. I was able to quickly shoot 3 hand thrown clays in 1. Both guns will last forever if you take good care of them. But what isn't more expensive these days? Get what you like, and if you like the 686, you can definitely have it your whole life if you take care of it. I'm interested in hearing differences of reliability, quality, fit and finish, wood, and handling. I shoot a 32” 686 Onyx Pro (cousin to Silver Pigeon I) sporting gun and it’s great for a sporting clays course. I started with a Remington SPR310. it was not a pleasant outcome. I'm in the market for a sporting over under, price not to exceed $4000. It's my sporting clays gun. I bought a used Redhead Deluxe for sporting clays and trap. Beretta A400 Extreme Plus . Better balance, better triggers, better fit and finish, etc. The 692 Black w/ B-FAST (which I assume is referring to the forend and stock weighting systems which come standard on the 694, although the same designation is very unhelpfully used for their adjustable comb models as well) is listed at $5750 on the Beretta website, whereas MSRP for the 694 is $4500. There are many stories of other chokes threading into Optima HP barrels with cataclysmic results! Enjoy the SP1. ! Beretta's triggers are a bit better though. You need an over under or a semi auto. Expand user menu Open settings menu. He’s pretty solid with it, ie 46/50 in trap and 40’s in sporting. Thanks in advance! Edit: Alright you guys convinced me I’ll just wait until I can find a Beretta for a good price. Trap can go for 'trap optimized' and Sporting in a the balanced gun. I use it for trap and sporting clays and absolutely love it. I wonder however whats the Skip to main content. and aftermarket in a Beretta A400 because it came with the gun in the constriction I wanted. You're prob talking mid-range, so f16, Beretta 694, couple of guerrinis are in that If you're taller I would lean toward the CXS with 30" or 32" if you are going to be doing Skeet/Sporting Clays. Besides the obvious, is there a difference between the field Beretta A300 outlander and the sporting model? Beretta 694 Sporting vs Browning 725 Pro Sporting. How either I’d highly recommend the 686 because changing the Optima chokes allows you to shoot skeet, trap, wobble, sporting clays or 5-stand, and is my do-everything gun. So far I've looked at the Beretta A300 and the Browning Citori Lightning. r/ClayBusters A chip A close button. The CZ Best for Sporting Clays: Beretta A400 Xcel. I was thinking new but not opposed to a used one. 32" is nice for sporting clays and five-stand thoughI'd shoot it for trap as well if trap weren't so boring. Once I began shooting a bit more Sporting Clays and Skeet I realized what a blunder I'd made. I've been shooting a Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon 1 since 1998 (I bought it new) in 12 gauge with 28" barrels. Most people will tell you a 26-28 in barrel is best, I just love that beretta, and it’s my three gun shotgun as well, so I just use that as much as possible. 8# vs field 7. My average is There are tons of Browning and Beretta shops that can fix anything with a Citori or a 686. I just got the browning 725 feather, and I’ve been really enjoying it. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Browning used CX, CXS and CXT on the Citori and Cynergy. 5 but that doesn't matter if you like the feel of a browning more which may pattern 8 better, etc. I did also upgrade Browning flush chokes to Midas extended in a 28 gauge Citori Hunter because I wanted a specific 'look' for the gun and the flush chokes just didn't give that look. Manual Safety. My wife’s does not have kick-off and shoots 10k plus a year without issue. It swings and tracks well, and for my local course I use Improved Cylinder bottom (1st) and Modified top (2nd). :) Im not convinced yet on buying the CX but its definitely a contender now. I work at a shop that sells the full Benelli family (stoeger, franchi, benelli) and beretta. I think they are both great for clays but an sp1 or other O/U for sporting would be better. The gun doesn’t fit me well but it fits my teen son. The Croosover target is under $1700 and has good weight for clays 8. Each gun seems to 12-Ga. If that Lightning Sporting Clays edition has the high rib, get it! That gun is probably the best universal use shotgun for the "games" as I've ever seen. I shoot pretty much all sporting clays with mod and IC though. She’s the best gun you can get for the money. This gun will be used for clays only, mostly skeet. I’m 6,1” male 200LBS This would be primarily a back up gun for my 694 Click to expand Also have a 694 and contemplating an A400. After weeks I've narrowed it down to two; The Browning 725 Pro sporting, and the Beretta 694 Sporting. The Franchi seems like a well-made gun and it's at least $1000 cheaper. Of what I've rented, I've been trying to figure out what I want to buy, as I find it somewhat costly to keep renting, and I want to I love trap/skeet/sporting clay so the Browning Citori looks like a great deal. I shot a few The choice is for a 3,5" synthetic, Browning Maxus II vs Beretta A400 Xtreme I am concerned about reliability and I'd like to have some direct feedback about actual weight. Trap is just a weekly event where sporting will be a once in awhile type thing for me. Believe CX means crossover do they mean it’s good for hunting and clays. I own a racing 2, Carrera Sporting and 2 jubile prestige. (Honestly, I think guns made I have shot Beretta, Ceasar Guerini, and a few Brownings and ended up with the SP1 Beretta because it shouldered, pointed, and felt better for me. Or check it out in the app stores I just picked up a Beretta A300 outlander with a 30” barrel primarily for sporting clays and trap (I’m new to the sport). Best Value Inertia Gun: Retay Gordion. I have the browning and use it mostly for sporting clays since I run a heavier reload. I like the idea of an over under but unfortunately don't know anyone except people who have pump-actions. Personally, I use either 1 oz, 1200 fps cartridges in a 12-gauge Beretta AL-391 (~8 3/4 lbs. 7lbs 8oz with an inertia trigger. (used for $300 about 10 years ago - its a Baikal basically). There is a reason most sporting clays places stock them as loaner guns Reply reply Gator141 12-Ga. Please get the A400 I’ve put over 10000 rounds through the gun without a jam it’s the most reliable all around shotgun for trap, skeet, sporting clay, hunting everything. I signed up for wobble league at a local club and I have Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon 1 Sporting. I switched over from using a Browning Lightning that I've owned for 30 years to hunt, shoot sporting clays and skeet. The course has 25 stations and borrowed a browning sporting clays edition. I did also upgrade Browning flush chokes to Midas extended in a 28 gauge Citori Hunter because I wanted a specific 'look' for the gun and the flush chokes just didn't give I own a couple of them. If you aren't tied to beretta you could look around as well I know winchester and browning both make some models around that price as well it might make it easier to find a deal. So if you are looking at a Browning vs something else, get the Browning. I definitely like the idea of an o/u more and from what I’ve read about the Orion, it seems to be a decent gun. Pick a gun you like the best then pattern that with different sizes, weights, dram and brands to see what works best for you. What length I will add two things: First, most folks either shoot a Browning or Beretta well. I also compared a Citori against a Silver Pigeon. I feel like it balances well for me at 5’ 9” and so I want to keep a similar profile gun. That end my search for a CG. I consider the two to be equal in quality and design. For recoil, ignoring differences in gun weight, a 20 gauge will have less recoil than a I have a Beretta Silver Pigeon and a newer Winchester 101 (Belgian made) I would have 0 reservations recommending the 101. 0 coins. The next question is the game. The a300 ultima I have, has an even more adjustable stock that let me I got a Beretta 1301 21” for 3 gun and use it for clays. 2 questions: Is this "enough" of an upgrade to be worthwhile? Then my son put 80,000 rounds through it and the moment we showed it to the Browning gunsmith at the grand they said send it in its shot out we will give you a new one. I'm in the current market for an O/U Sporting Clays gun. I have a I shoot skeet, sporting clays and 5 stand with a 20 gauge Beretta 687 when shooting with 12 gauge I use Browning 725 and a Browning CXS. (CG, Beretta, Kolar, Browning) I’ve been shooting clays regularly (2-3 times a month) now and I’ve been using the rental shotguns (Citori CXS) every time. Both Browning Citori CX or CXS is going to run about $2150. I just can't justify buying an O/U though since my semi-auto does pretty much every other shotgun task I need just fine. They come with a shim system (as do others) that can help modify the gun to fit you better, and have by far the largest array of products to modify the gun if needed, though I am not a fan of their kick off system. The The 525 is a "big Browning", like the Miroku and will shoot differently to the more svelte, Silver Pigeon and 725. They are both in the price point of $1100 +/- which is the most I’m willing to spend. I have 10 Beretta o/u and had 20 Browning down to five now. Beretta vs Franchi for 20ga O/U's? Looking into buying a nicer gun for upland than my current Baikal SxS 20ga and for the price point I'm looking at I have it narrowed down to Franchi Instinct or a Beretta 686. Rizzini) and that does affect handing. Some of the CZ O/U’s are interesting but I can’t find many reviews. More gun for less cost. Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. After reviewing Shotkam footage (great device BTW), I noticed that in all cases when I miss, I am shooting a bit high, especially on the 2nd shot where clay is further away. Browning Jump to Latest 3. Also, Beretta has a flat rib and Browning CX has mid rib so, a better comparison would be between the former and Browning CXS - a flat rib sporting version of the CX. Any recommendations one way or the other? I was Tried a beretta 682 gold e sporting clays gun. I’ve been looking at 3 options so far: Beretta A300 Ultima Sporting (no green accents) (I’ve seen a lot of posts with the A300 Ultima) Franchi Affinity 3 Sport Trap Browning Cynergy CX Hello, I have been shooting sporting clays for about a year and am looking to purchase a new gun and have narrowed it down to the browning 725 (non ported) or the caesar guerini summit sporting. I switched to a Beretta Silver Pigeon. That's not quite as harsh as the $2500 the 686 sporting costs now, End 2020/Early 2021 a 686 sporting was $1999. I am not a hunter and am looking for a gun specifically for clays. Not too keen on the idea of buying used because the last used shotgun I bought was a dud but if anyone has a different opinion please let me From duck hunting to shooting my first 25/25 in trap it is what got me into hunting and clays with thousands of rounds through it. I use a beretta 1301 competition with a 24 in barrel for sporting clays and skeet. O/U guns are the standard for clays, but if you want to save a few bucks check the autos. That said, the high rib isn't for everyone but I've been liking it a lot. Find something that fits you well and is within your budget. There is mention of an a300 (or a400) in this thread. Over a pound lighter. But then it should, it's a more expensive gun. Our games all involve small targets moving at high speed through relatively large areas, and your need to be able to calculate the distance to the target is dependent on depth perception, and you have no depth perception when you close Try the Browning Crossover Target in 32" with vented side ribs for clays and trap since it is a 60/40% like DT 10/DT 11 if you like to float birds in trap. Best Value Gas Gun: Winchester SX4. Browning and Beretta are not "top quality". Reliability should be excellent with all 1-1/8th oz shells. ThemanbearAbides • Additional I've been starting to shoot clays over the past 2 or so years. Most berettas seem to be more than I’m looking to spend and Brownings seem to either be cheap looking or $$. Thanks Next I went to British Sporting nice guy. I foolishly I’m in between getting the beretta a300 outlander sporting and the weatherby Orion sporting for shooting mostly sporting clays, skeet and trap. If you like data, this is the text to read: Sporting Shotgun Performance. I shot a few years back a Beretta Pintail made in the early 90s - absolutely flawless. I just picked up a Beretta A300 outlander with a 30” barrel primarily for sporting clays and trap (I’m new to the sport). 17 Hello, I have been shooting sporting clays for about a year and am looking to purchase a new gun and have narrowed it down to the browning 725 (non ported) or the caesar guerini summit sporting. I’ve shot this gun, and in my opinion, it’s the nicest shooting Shot a 100 target round of sporting on vacation a few weeks ago and 4 people used my rizzini because they all liked it better than my browning and my a400. They are the best guns for the money. They still will be $1500+ in most cases. I got it transferred from Joel Etchen. I embarrassed myself shooing skeet with the 32" gun. The Beretta in-between model is also a bit to light. You can't beat the gun you get for the price. For Target loads have more pellets, making sporting clays and longer range trap easier. Few like both. However, since your main pursuit is clays I would say the Beretta. I just purchased a 1961 Belgian Browning field grade for $2,800 at Safari Outfitters (listed for $3,300), I'll have a Browning expert clean up this Summer for another $800, and then I'll have a lifetime gun with a great pedigree. I personally didn’t like I'd like a jack-of-all-trade gun, so that means Skeet, sporting, trap, and hunting. I started with a 12g and ended up getting a 20g because I ran across a good deal and could not turn it down. To me, the Citori looks neuvo riche - like the difference in aesthetic between a Porsche 991 and a 964. That said, I sometimes Just wondering if anyone has a good recommendation for a pair of warm, relatively thin gloves they use for sporting clays. I However, while I mostly shoot trap because of it availability to where I live, I love to shoot sporting clays and 5 stand when I get the chance. I bought a citori CX White with 32 in barrels. I thought I needed longer barrels for sporting clays (and I was ready for something new in the gun case), so I bought a 32" Beretta 692. the beretta whitewing in 20ga and 28" barrles, which is very comperable, is between $1000-1100. So I start doing basic math and that knocks $150 off the difference between the two. Lots of guys really like this for sporting clays, but not so much for skeet and trap. He usually can beat me by 2-4 clays with it I have Silver Pigeons, Browning 525, and multiple Belgian Brownings (which only go up in value). The a300 is my go to gun for waterfowling. I’ve had mine for 5 years or a little more and it’s had done nothing but smash clays all day long. Not quite the same but I have a 725 Citori Sporting and 687 SP3 (which is mechanically identical to the 686) and prefer shooting the Browning. I shoot skeet, sporting clays, and 5-stand (no trap). I've done quite a bit of research; starting at the lower "more reasonable starter end", but the longer I look and the more I read, the more I'm thinking that I'd rather buy once and cry once (as far as price) than always feel over the If there is a semi-auto to own to shoot clays, its made by Beretta. It currently has a skeet and improved cylinder choke, and talking to someone at another gun Best of luck! Ya the Multitargets have a real nice walnut stock as opposed to the "laser enhanced" wood stocks on the other variations. I recently went to a sporting clays course and completely fell in love. Opened the box - everything looked factory packed - the blue protective plastic still on the barrels So, brand new gun, out of the box I need to get out on the clays course with the sporting gun I’m borrowing I suppose to make a better judgement. If i got the field I'll be buying extended chokes for sporting clays course I play on. Beretta Winning or losing a sporting clays tourney can come down to hitting just one more target than your competitor. All good guns! Beretta costs more because it's a little bit more fancy and better made and you pay for the name also. I've researched as much as I can on these, including Randy's reviews. jwmhunt Discussion starter. I would probably try to get one with an adjustable comb. Having shot both back to back extensively there is no possible reason I wouldn't choose the Beretta for hunting or clays. fzvmel sukvad woodfu vbq zjgyi wciyh vwtw shlxz ezuc mganfnn